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Poster: gfreed Date: Apr 12, 2008 11:54am
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: I've got Fireball XL5

They dumped the entire archive? Well maybe the film went bad! I've heard that film used to be made from acidtate I think they called it and over time this stuff would just go away. If not I wonder why they would just dump American history in the river. As a side note I have noticed that there doesn't seem to be many WC Fields or May West films around. There was also a movie called "From the Earth to the Moon" I haven't seen in ages. This film was in color and they were not shot out of a cannon. In this film the space craft was painted with an anti-gravity paint. This space craft landed hard and used railroad car bumpers for shock absorption.

I often wonder why TVland never plays stuff like Ozzie and Harriet, Donna Reed, Lassie and other like TV shows! The do run gun smoke but they only run a very few of them over and over again.

Maybe someone doesn't want us to know how good the 50's really were. As a kid in the 50's I could do anything, go anywhere and I live in Long Island New York. No one ever messed with me or tried to molest me and I was really little at the time. I even walked to school! This doesn't mean that the other school children weren't little terrorist, some of them were spoiled brats but then there are always a few of those!

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Poster: ezvcd Date: Apr 12, 2008 2:54pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: what happened to the list of dumont programe

what happened to the list from robin DuMont PD programs that was posted by robin..all the sudden it was removed...i want to know why or if there is a way to contact robin please send me the list angel@gotwings@gmailcom

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Poster: Robin_1990 Date: Apr 12, 2008 3:05pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: what happened to the list of dumont programe

I accidently deleted the list. Here it is:
A.N.T.A. Album of 1955 - 1 program

Boxing from St. Nicholas Arena - 5 programs
(1/7/56, 4/9/56, 6/11/56, 7/23/56, 8/6/56, plus numerous non-network telecasts continuing into 1957)

Boxing with Dennis James - 3 programs

Captain Video and his Video Rangers - 24 programs

Cavalcade of Stars - 15 programs
(9/16/49, 4/15/50, 4/22/50, 5/20/50, 5/25/50, 6/3/50, 8/19/50, 9/2/50, 6/51, 10/26/51, plus 5 unidentified programs from 1950)

Champagne and Orchids - 2 programs

Charlie Wild, Private Detective - 2 programs
"The Case of the Double Trouble" (listed as 3/5/51, but this air date appears to be in error; may be 3/5/52)
Unidentified program (5/6/52)
Note: 15 programs are listed, but only these two appear to be DuMont network programs.

Colonel Humphrey Flack - 12 programs
"The 8-Ball and the Side Pocket" (10/14/53)
"The Missing Heiress" (11/18/53)
Unidentified program (2/9/54)
9 other unidentified programs

Concert Tonight - 1 program

Dark of Night - 1 program

Doorway to Fame - 2 programs
(3/30/49 and 4/49)

Front Row Center - 1 program

Georgetown University Forum - 1 program
"Is the Government Selling Itself?" (12/13/51)

Goldbergs, The - 21 programs
(5/11/54 - 10/19/54)

Growing Paynes, The - 1 program

Gruen Playhouse - 2 programs
"A Boy Wears a Gun" (5/22/52)
"Bird of Prey" (6/19/52)

Guide Right - 18 programs
(dates not specified)

International Playhouse - 12 programs
"Darkest Hour"
"Desperate Encounter"
"The Last Letter"
"A Man's Wife"
"Million Dollar Mystery"
"The Next Victim"
"A Night to Remember"
"On With the Old"
"The Promise"
"The Scarlet Thread"
"A Simple Case of Murder"
"Young Man's Fancy"
Note: These programs cannot all be confirmed as having aired on the DuMont network.

Jimmy Hughes, Rookie Cop - 1 program
(5/8/53), network premiere

Johns Hopkins Science Review, The - 3 programs
"Great Men of Science" (1951)
"Man Will Conquer Space" (10/7/52)
"It is a Fact" (undated)

Joseph Schildkraut Presents - 1 program
"Nightmare" (11/18/53)

Kids and Company - 1 program

Life is Worth Living - 4 programs
(10/52, 3 unidentified programs from 1955)

Magic Cottage - 1 program

Man Against Crime - 24 programs
"Three Cents Worth of Murder" (10/25/53)
"Time Keepers" (11/1/53)
"Murder in the Rough" (11/8/53)
"Main Bout is Murder" (11/15/53)
"Thirty Dimes" (11/22/53)
"Murder Mountain" (12/6/53)
"A Very Dead Ringer" (12/13/53)
"Cube Root of Evil" (12/16/53)
"Petite Larceny" (12/20/53)
"Don't Feed the Animals" (1/3/54)
"Danger for Duffy" (1/10/54)
"Going, Going, Gone" (1/13/54)
"Terror Twelve Stories High" (1/17/54)
"Holler Uncle" (1/24/54)
"Beauty and the Beasts" (1/31/54)
"Mike's Missing Marbles" (2/21/54)
"Little Boy Blues" (2/24/54)
"Target with Two T's" (3/3/54)
"Will o' the Wisp" (3/7/54)
"U.F.O." (3/17/54)
"Hit and Run" (3/21/54)
"Canary Yellow" (3/28/54)
"Rigged for Murder" (3/31/54)
"Plugged Shilling" (4/4/54)
Note: This series was simulcast on both NBC and DuMont on the air dates shown.

Marge and Jeff - 2 programs

Melody Street - 3 programs
(1/1/54, unidentified program from 1954, and excerpts from another 1954 program)

Morey Amsterdam Show, The - 73 programs
(4/21/49 - 10/12/50)

Newsweek Views the News (Newsweek Analysis) - 2 programs
"Casebook of Treason" (2/27/50)
"The Far East" (4/17/50)

Not for Publication - 12 programs
"The Build-Up" (5/13/51)
"Collins on the Rocks" (3/25/52)
"88 Keys to Escape" (4/1/52)
"Cells of Treachery" (4/5/52)
"The Lost Locket" (4/8/52)
"All the World's a Stage" (4/15/52)
6 unidentified episodes from 1951

Original Amateur Hour, The - 4 programs
(2 programs from 5/49, unidentified program from 1949, and excerpts from another unidentified program)

Passaic: Birthplace of Television and the DuMont Story - 1 program

Paul Dixon Show, The - 1 program
(8/8/51), network premiere

Pulse of the City - 3 programs
"The Case of Bill Huff" (1953)
"The Case of Captain Denning" (1953)
"The Case of Norman Doyle" (1953)

Rocky King, (Inside) Detective - 37 programs
"Right Shoe, Wrong Foot" (6/3/51)
"Murder Scores a Knockout" (7/13/52)
"The Hermit's Cat" (8/31/52)
"Marked for Murder" (11/15/53)
33 unidentified programs from 1951-54

Star Time - 5 programs
(11/21/50, 11/28/50, 1/16/51, 2/6/51, and excerpts from an unidentified program)

Studio 57 - 5 programs
"The Blue Wall"
"Little Miss Bedford"
"My Baby Boy"
"No Sentiment"
"The Secret Darkness"
Note: These programs cannot all be confirmed as having aired on the DuMont network.

Ted Steele Show, The - 1 program
(7/12/49), final show of series

This is Music - 2 programs
(4/51, unidentified program from 1951)

Vincent Lopez Show, The - 1 program

Window on the World - 1 program

[There is more surviving PD DuMont Network programs at other archives. Much of DuMont's output was extremely low-budget, But they did produce a few gems. This list comes from a tribute website to DuMont. Also, do note that if it's from DuMont, then there is a 99.9% chance it's PD]

This post was modified by Robin_1990 on 2008-04-12 22:05:29

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Poster: ezvcd Date: Apr 12, 2008 3:36pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: what happened to the list of dumont programe

very good..thank you for all and i mean all your work and posting...where is the tribute site to DuMont thanks again

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Poster: Robin_1990 Date: Apr 12, 2008 3:49pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: what happened to the list of dumont programe

The tribute site, run by Clarke Ingram, can be found here:

I've upload 1 episode of "Captain Video", 1 episode of "The Morey Amsterdam Show", 3 episodes of "Rocky King, Detective" and clips from "Cavalcade of Stars", along with an episode of a show that aired on a DuMont affiliate called "Sense and Nonsense". BTW, For even more info on DuMont, check out David Weinstein's book "The Forgotten Network", and this Wikipedia article:

If anyone could upload more DuMont footage, that would be great.

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Poster: TforThomas Date: Apr 12, 2008 2:47pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: I've got Fireball XL5

Sounds like "First Men in the Moon" By H.G. Wells! One of my favourite movies.

A great book too!

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Poster: Robin_1990 Date: Apr 12, 2008 2:13pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: DuMont Television Network archive

According to the wife of Ernie Kovacs, Nobody wanted to preserve DuMont's archive after they went out of business, since they were seen as having little commercial value. It's well known that ABC, CBS, and NBC destroyed many of their live programs until 1978 when cable meant that even a short-lived game show could be re-run. In DuMont's case, It's believed that ABC had bought the rights to the company, and destroyed the Kinescopes to make way for newer stuff. Curiously enough, Every episode of the shows you mentioned still exist, Since "Filmed" TV shows could be re-run.